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One main issue is that we don't want to deal with complicated save files across separate games. It'll be awkward to have three games, but having a player who's unable to access Year 2 and 3 if he/she hasn't completed Year 1. Many games allow a player to jump into an "expansion" without completing the original game. We can't do that here as that defeats the whole purpose of a story.
Yes, there's a lot of material going into this project. But in a more blunt/not-so-graceful way of putting it, we're not promising anything. This is a straightforward project done in a "for fun" manner by people who have their own lives outside of working on this game. Rest assured we do intend on finishing the project, even if it takes a few years (hopefully not, but if it does, then it does).
TL;DR - making separate installments will complicate the process even more. One big simple game = easiest way.
Statistics: Posted by VisualJae — Sun Jul 17, 2016 6:02 pm
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My reasoning for making it episodic is that there would still be the same amount of scenarios as if they had made it in one whole game, but some would be able to be more streamlined. I this may not make sense, but the the main reason I am trying to champion this idea is because for me it really seemed to work in a series of games I played. It seems like nobody else has played that game on this forum, so I understand that I it is difficult to see why it might work, especially since the only reasons that I am giving have been vague at best.
I mentioned that the way Majikoi S gets around the lack of a transferable save system by having simplified routes that are a continuation of the main routes from previous game. These while I say they are simplified I mean in comparison to the common route, which is much longer. The "simplified" route still covers the day to interactions, it just streamlines it to the scenes that involve the main character the and character whose route you chose, as well as their close friends. The other routes are full sized routes.
For example if they used this same set up in this game, if you you chose the route that was a continuation of the Serena route it would focus more on the student counsel, and the classes you shared, and the interactions with your friends. While I understand this pretty much sounds exactly like the regular game the difference would be that it not cover events that didn't involve Serena. This may sound like a bad thing to a lot of you, but from my experience, if a route goes on for too long it becomes harder to keep it interesting story wise.
I feel like if they don't use this method then there will probably be people who will would push for break up scenarios or cheating scenarios, so they can pursue a character that comes in a later in game year, and this would would drastically increase the workload.
Statistics: Posted by lonefool — Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:50 am
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@lonefool That's a lot of derogatory words, you shouldn't say that. You're quite brave for making this thread, and it's okay if you posted in the wrong section, it happens. ^^
Now, before this thread gets locked, I wish to state my opinion on the topic, if you don't mind.
As @Forgotten Felix stated beforehand, they would have to work on 3 projects then. Sure, you would get focus on other characters, and you can get a glimpse on their perspective, but they would have to create different scenarios, and considering they currently only have one writer, the idea seems highly unlikely.
I'm sure they would've considered it if they had more writers.
And for several shorter games, that would be a lot of work. If you look it at my perspective, not everyone would bother downloading 7 episodes, so making it onto one would much more convenient for us. That's just in my perspective through.
And yes, the transferring part is the main problem. That's just going to become an inconvenience for them and it would just take longer for a release, which wouldn't sit well with some of the players.
Thank you for your input, @lonefool! ^^
I'll definitely check out Majikoi and hopefully my opinion wasn't a bother to you.
Statistics: Posted by Sapphire — Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:44 am
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I understand if you think my idea was stupid, and that I am an idiot for posting this in the wrong part of the forum, I am sorry for bothering you
Statistics: Posted by lonefool — Sun Jul 17, 2016 4:02 am
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Is it easier to move a boulder by yourself or is it easier to break it in smaller and then move it? I hope it makes sense I am not really good at making my thoughts coherent. I am worried that this will make me sound arrogant, but I do have some experience doing video game design, in fact it is what my degree is in, and I have tried to make my own visual novel, I wasn't able to get support or help so the visual novel didn't go anywhere, but I am trying to provide what little knowledge I have about the subject. Anyways the point of making episodic games is to break what would be one large game into several shorter games so you can release the games more frequently, however this does not always work as intended.
Also I stated that less content would need to be cut, not no content would be, cut, there are so many games that had to cut out content that was originally promised, because of limited time, resources, or because those features caused run time errors that they were unable to they were removed just because it was deemed easier, the best example of this would be Peter Molyneux and Fable, he promised so much but he was ultimately unable to deliver the game he promised.
I guess I didn't explain enough about the main routes in Majikoi which I mentioned briefly, yes they do ultimately lead to a romantic relationship, with the exception of the true route and the male friend routes, but until then it mostly covers the main character spending time with his friends and his eccentric classmates and teachers. By the time you diverge from the common route to a character specific route you are already well acquainted with your fellow classmates and friends.
I do recommend Majikoi, both the original and S are already translated, and A-1, the first of five fan disks, is still being translated. Be warned however it is an h visual novel, but it is primarily a comedy that has a really good story, and considering that the game is over 50 hrs long, I would say that it would at least be a good series to use as a reference since it manages to successfully pull of some comedic scenes and more serious emotional scenes. I am a big fan of this series but I understand it is not for everyone.
Statistics: Posted by lonefool — Sun Jul 17, 2016 3:54 am
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